December 9, 2008

Proposition 8.

There has been an outcry about fairness roaring across the campus. People seem to be highly incensed at California’s recent ban on homosexual marriage, but few of them seem to know all of the issues at stake here. Let us examine this issue a little more closely.

First of all the issue of gay marriage seems to be a flashpoint for many people, but those same people ignore a very basic fact when they urge this issue. Marriage is religious in its origins, religious in its observance, and religious in its most basic principles. This begs the question, why do homosexuals think they can force this issue? The fact of the matter is that, as marriage is essentially a religious institution, no law can affect who is or is not allowed to be married.

There is such a thing as a civil union in today’s society, and this form of “marriage” is controlled by the state. Gays seeking to live together as a couple could get a civil union before they began pressing for “equal status.” Where a church is concerned there is no law in the U.S. that can start or stop a practice. Gays, despite their best efforts, can never hope to force a church to marry them, and as such their fight was doomed from the beginning.

It was almost amusing to watch the protest the other day and see how quickly the protesters would contradict themselves when interviewed. For instance, one couple stated, “we just want equal rights in the eyes of the government. What churches do is up to them. We’re just after fair treatment and the multitude of benefits that heterosexual couples married by the state or church enjoy.” Then within the space of two breaths she said, “If the government or the church were to call unions in the church something different from those made by the state it creates a separate and unequal situation. We aren’t second class citizens.” She went on to say; however, that “I don’t believe the state can pass any laws regarding a church.” They destroy their own position with statements like this. They try to stand on the center of a line, and they fail to make sense by doing so. They know they cannot force the church to recognize them, but they are not willing to accept a redefinition of civil marriages. This is a self-defeating stance. They need to accept what they are really pressing for and clearly understand what it is they seek before they cry about injustice.

The second thing about this issue is how many people seem to think the majority of people are for gay marriage. I would have told you a few months ago that I believed more people supported gay marriage than clearly do. What the issue with the California marriage ban has shown us is we were mistaken. Some people howl about bigotry and the like, but the message here is very simple. The majority of people in one of the most liberal states have said they do not want to allow gays to be joined as couples.

There is some question about the actual legality of this ban, but regardless of whether or not the ban is upheld an important battle has been won here. Those of us, who have resisted the vocal minority, have seen in this that noise does not mean numbers in this. The majority is not what society would like us to believe.

[Alex Thomas is a freshman at UNL]

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Alex,

Your ignorance on the issues surrounding the gay marriage controversy is staggering. "..no law can affect who is or is not allowed to be married." Look up Loving v. Virginia, then you can at least claim you did some research (albeit after writing an article based on ill-informed assumptions and your naive freshman opinions).

While I am clearly in disagreement with the stance that you take in this article that is not what is most important here. Successful journalism--or even successful persuasive argument in general--hinges upon a factual basis rather than stating how you happen to feel about a particular controversial issue.

"They need to accept what they are really pressing for and clearly understand what it is they seek before they cry about injustice." I almost feel as though quoting this ridiculous sentence says all that needs to be said, but from what I have read of your thoughts it is clear that that would not be adequate. They, meaning homosexuals, most certainly do know what they are "crying" about (use less polarizing language, you aren't going to win anyone over by belittling them); it is you, Alex, who clearly do not understand the monetary and social benefits that are accorded to those in legally binding marriages that are not given to those in Civil Unions.

Also, the "contradiction" you mention is not even a contradiction. Look up the word (it is obvious you do not understand its use) and refer back to your own attempt at journalistic writing. Mind boggling that you made it into a major university.

You should take a couple years to study and learn more about the world, about people with views differing from your own, and about writing (especially if you aspire to pursue journalism) before you mock a lifestyle that you disagree with.

This kind of article may have gone over well amongst anti-intellectual high school students. However, you are now writing to an audience of college educated peers. In the future take some time to think about your writing (I hope beyond all hopes that this article was not what you consider to be "thought out") before you put it in print.

**note that I intentionally used belittling language contrary to my own suggestion, this is because this comment is directed to Alex, not to the student body**

Anonymous said...

What you don't seem to understand, Alex, is that civil marriage is a government institution. There is no religious qualification to receive a marriage license, and the marriage license is what is being denied. Please take the time to inform yourself on these issues, maybe read Goodridge v. Department of Health?

"...as marriage is essentially a religious institution, no law can affect who is or is not allowed to be married." I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Of course the government can restrict who you can't marry; interracial couples were denied marriage rights until 1967 in this country.

It also seems that you are unfamiliar with the history of the issue. "There is such a thing as a civil union in today’s society, and this form of “marriage” is controlled by the state. Gays seeking to live together as a couple could get a civil union before they began pressing for “equal status.” This quote says to me that civil unions have always been in place, and that gays hadn't pressed for equal rights before there were civil unions, which is completely inaccurate. Until 2000, there was not one state that allowed civil unions. Same sex couples have been fighting for equal rights since 1971. Today, only 7 states provide civil unions (or something similar). Where does this leave couples in the all the other states?

Marriage is a civil institution, and should provide equal rights to all citizens under the Constitution. Alex, if you plan to write another article, please do some research like a real journalist.

Joshua Beran said...

If marriage is religious in its origins, then these these origins must have come sometime after Greece and Rome, where marriage was a simple business contract between husband and father-in-law that required neither religious or state approval.


"The fact of the matter is that, as marriage is essentially a religious institution, no law can affect who is or is not allowed to be married."

If no law can affect who can or cannot get married then how did the voters of California pass a law that does just that?

"There is such a thing as a civil union in
today’s society, and this form of “marriage” is controlled by the state. Gays seeking to live together as a couple could get a civil union before they began pressing for “equal status.” Where a church is concerned there is no law in the U.S. that can start or stop a practice. Gays, despite their best efforts, can never hope to force a church to marry them, and as such their fight was doomed from the beginning."

Funny, I seem to recall witnessing my mother's civil marriage to my stepfather with my own two eyes. Perhaps my memory deceives me.